tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post8729023567491980013..comments2023-06-28T16:12:20.204+07:00Comments on BlackRain79 - Elite Poker Strategy: Set Over Set - Here's What the Pros Do [2024]BlackRain79http://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-5839290205265862642019-05-20T03:42:00.730+07:002019-05-20T03:42:00.730+07:00Last night at our home game with three hands left ...Last night at our home game with three hands left on our "once around" for the night I flopped middle set. Our "lucky b-tard" player buts $2, I raise to $12, he made it $42, I all-in, he calls. He had the freakin' top set. Ugh. And only two hands left so no chance to rebut and make it back. Lost my $100 buy in plus over $100 I was up. The only guy I wasn't dominating Draugnarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02437731885659928921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-67369710508893374482017-04-29T13:23:51.230+07:002017-04-29T13:23:51.230+07:00As I talk about in the article, you should basical...As I talk about in the article, you should basically always go broke in this situation. So this doesn't make you a losing player. BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-42365485970585311502017-04-28T21:45:23.071+07:002017-04-28T21:45:23.071+07:00Funny.
I installed PT and played about 9600 Hand ...Funny. <br />I installed PT and played about 9600 Hand in the last 3 month. This rare set vs set situation happened 6 times. I allways got broke. <br />So, i think i am what you are calling a loosing player. ;-)<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17244700869299597277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-18198799786713792862017-02-21T15:51:43.348+07:002017-02-21T15:51:43.348+07:00Crazy hand. I don't think there is any way I a...Crazy hand. I don't think there is any way I am folding top set here either. BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-74299171395688119312017-02-20T18:59:07.400+07:002017-02-20T18:59:07.400+07:00I have read this post yesterday and this happened ...I have read this post yesterday and this happened a few minutes ago.<br />https://www.weaktight.com/h/58aad80dd39043146a8b4590<br />wasnt maybe played the best possible way but the button had fishy stats and since cutoff checked the river i wasnt afraid of him shoving all-in. would have folded a lower set on the river for sure<br /><br />thanks for all the content you bring upswagginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10863322619596079831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-12142733015845342012016-11-03T08:45:56.579+07:002016-11-03T08:45:56.579+07:00He very likely goes broke against you if the hands...He very likely goes broke against you if the hands are reversed (and they will be at some point), so this is why I rarely worry about hands like this. BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-14926783349661140562016-11-03T08:43:38.873+07:002016-11-03T08:43:38.873+07:00Good hand, ya you need a really dead read to get a...Good hand, ya you need a really dead read to get away from a set. Almost always correct to just get it in especially on a dryish board like this.BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-77412821008785328522016-11-03T08:41:41.308+07:002016-11-03T08:41:41.308+07:00No way I am ever folding here. Even if behind we h...No way I am ever folding here. Even if behind we have 10 outs twice to catch up. Very good chance that we have at least one or both of the fish crushed already. So I am just looking to get this in. All-in on the flop keeps things nice and simple :)BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-52199659676949896592016-11-03T07:55:47.724+07:002016-11-03T07:55:47.724+07:00Just happend to me in a live cash game. AA vs 77. ...Just happend to me in a live cash game. AA vs 77. Flop was AK7. Flop was checked and turn came 8. I was UTG checked he bet small I raised he re raised and I shoved all in. Game over. Lol. Lost around 200bb.i just said nice hand and walked off. The only thing I feel I could hv done different is re raise his bet pre flop, he might hv re raised me and I could hv folded putting him on bigger pair. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325067803086317309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-6607451962424023382016-10-03T20:00:49.006+07:002016-10-03T20:00:49.006+07:00This is why I don't fold my bottom set even ag...This is why I don't fold my bottom set even against nits and massive action in front of me. Might not be 100% accurate, played on site where you can't use tracking software. Just remember this hand really well since it ended up being a 4-way all in on the flop and the end result being kind of sick.<br /><br />UTG (nit)<br />MP (reg)<br />CO (reg)<br />BU (Hero)<br />SB (super fish)<br />Johanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11303359541711022923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-37587954302933110642016-09-19T05:55:06.181+07:002016-09-19T05:55:06.181+07:00Very nice post. One situation:
1) SB 58/33/0/infin...Very nice post. One situation:<br />1) SB 58/33/0/infinite (VPIP/PFR/3B/AF) 29BB<br />2) BB 24/10/1/2 101BB<br />3) UTG 54/15/0/9 63BB<br />4) hero 23/13/7/4 170BB<br />5) empty<br />6) BTN 20/16/4/3 103 BB<br />NL2<br /><br />UTG limp, hero QsQd raise 6BB, BTN fold, SB call, BB fold, UTG call; pot 19BB (38cents)<br />Let's say that for both SB (especially) and UTG I had a very small sample Andrea D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03303449534831594779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-82497687834475015382016-08-28T10:13:20.271+07:002016-08-28T10:13:20.271+07:00Both players sound pretty crazy so I don't thi...Both players sound pretty crazy so I don't think I am ever folding here.BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-25078423289250849002016-08-28T04:26:15.799+07:002016-08-28T04:26:15.799+07:00https://www.weaktight.com/h/57c2047dd39043d43e8b45...https://www.weaktight.com/h/57c2047dd39043d43e8b4587<br /><br />Would this be one of those special cases where you should fold bottom set? I think that it would be possibly a fold if there was no flush draw.<br /><br />MP= spewy fish I go out of my way to find. 37/27 raising something like 32% there. Very aggressive pre and postflop. <br /><br />BB= 25/18 only 80 hands and his stats look overly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-19864741020817483382016-08-26T06:05:29.897+07:002016-08-26T06:05:29.897+07:00Crazy hand. I would just be laughing and saying th...Crazy hand. I would just be laughing and saying thanks on the inside. Seen this kinda thing at the micros many times though. BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-13648416671677723692016-08-26T06:00:09.772+07:002016-08-26T06:00:09.772+07:00No prob SF, glad you liked the article. Nice, Vanc...No prob SF, glad you liked the article. Nice, Vancouver summers are always amazing!BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-1004705162605284122016-08-25T22:39:39.488+07:002016-08-25T22:39:39.488+07:00This happened to me just last night early in my se...This happened to me just last night early in my session. <br /><br />-Effective Stack (100bb) <br />-MP w/ 7's & no one is in the pot yet so I bring it in for 4bb <br />-A tight/passive player on the button 3Bets me somewhat light. I've seen him do this before multiple times w/ QQ+/AK so insta-peg him in this range. I also love calling his 3bet OOP in this type of situation because I Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519884417355470729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-23290696906627798032016-08-25T22:23:57.487+07:002016-08-25T22:23:57.487+07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519884417355470729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-53320967079331164202016-08-25T21:45:16.731+07:002016-08-25T21:45:16.731+07:00I had this hand yesterday. I wonder what the odds ...I had this hand yesterday. I wonder what the odds are on this one happening again! Thanks for the knowledge bombs Nathan. They're always appreciated. BTW it's supposed to be +28 here in Vancouver today!<br /><br />http://www.flopturnriver.com/Poker-Hand-8d8s-Ring-MP-1899855.php<br />Sneaky Feethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14647013019909805238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-44211027217324398292016-08-25T20:07:49.450+07:002016-08-25T20:07:49.450+07:00Haha, I have seen this happen several times before...Haha, I have seen this happen several times before also.BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-8976286747524052016-08-25T19:44:39.919+07:002016-08-25T19:44:39.919+07:00I folded bottom set. It was the exact situation yo...I folded bottom set. It was the exact situation you described where there were two nits starting a raising war. Thankfully I was in position. I still called the flop bets, but they started going nuts on the turn and I knew at least one of them had a better set. Turned out they both did! It was a three-way set-fest and I was smart enough to get out of the way. (That time, anyway...LOL!)David Rosenhaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08219579300213438350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-11715077011978024762016-08-25T17:20:07.786+07:002016-08-25T17:20:07.786+07:00Haha. Nothing tilts me more than getting coolered ...Haha. Nothing tilts me more than getting coolered by a nit!BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-86781966675323901662016-08-25T17:19:09.462+07:002016-08-25T17:19:09.462+07:00Sounds like it was probably a good fold to me. The...Sounds like it was probably a good fold to me. The only non-set hand he could have here that 3Bet ships the turn is AJ but he probably just flats this hand preflop. The fact that it was deep also changes things. Good fold imo.BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-76777882411762279512016-08-25T17:14:54.552+07:002016-08-25T17:14:54.552+07:00I love Tommy Angelo's stuff and reference it o...I love Tommy Angelo's stuff and reference it often in my blog posts! His stuff about reciprocity is indeed brilliant.BlackRain79https://www.blogger.com/profile/13583442498190608166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-41602516402837479402016-08-25T14:37:23.506+07:002016-08-25T14:37:23.506+07:00If a set mining nit calls preflop and I have botto...If a set mining nit calls preflop and I have bottom set on a board like JT5 rainbow, and then he raises my cbet I immediately begin to curse the poker gods and go broke anyway.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04528345711877030294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3503203097950401361.post-77777177562494432312016-08-25T14:33:07.344+07:002016-08-25T14:33:07.344+07:00It was more than three years ago but I vividly rem...It was more than three years ago but I vividly remember folding a set of eights playing live $2/$5 with >150bb effective. Tight/Passive older guy 3bet in the SB after I raise CO. Flop was J-8-x, he bet big I call. Turn is A, he bets, I raise, he tanks then shoves. I tanked for what felt like an hour and folded. Never saw his hand. I think that's the only time when the board wasn't Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07477489868430162921noreply@blogger.com